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I need someone to teach me for the test...
« on: March 23, 2012, 04:43:19 AM »
I was in a class in high school back in'78 my freshman year that was so boring I washed out before I was there.I retaliated by screwing with the Drivers Ed class (who were on CB channel 11) as they practiced on the lot with a juiced Midland 23 channel.Got caught & was a half a finger of a demerit from getting tossed into hardcase school.

That was my freshman year.

I miss that punk kid sometimes.He sure looked better than I do now.

I know the test for amateur radio is supposed to be rough.I can hear guys on here IM'ing each other "DONT DO IT! THIS GUY IS NUTS & WILL RUIN EVERYTHING!"

Im 33 years out of practice.Had they let us transmit instead of boring us to the point of tears,they would have gotten better results.You cant learn to fly a plane sitting on the ground.You got to keep peoples heart in it because they cant get there on brains alone......Unless they throttled their torquerods to Roxy Music. :o
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Re: I need someone to teach me for the test...
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2012, 09:54:59 AM »
I knew it.

No one wants me on the band :'(

Just like '78 all over again!
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Re: I need someone to teach me for the test...
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2012, 01:33:26 PM »
I knew it.

No one wants me on the band :'(

Just like '78 all over again!

I know several on here are HAMs but its pretty much a individual study thing.  Lots of online info.  I bought a book done by Gordon West.  Then you can practice test online.  Then you have to find a local group doing the testing. 

While I have several friends that are hams, everyone has sorta done it their own way.

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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2012, 02:00:14 PM »
Here is a list of Hams in Mt Vernon Indiana
One of them would have information on Hams Classes in your area.
My call is WW9GT and I got my ticket in 1978.
I hope this helps.
Full list of 28 FCC Registered Amateur Radio Licenses in Mount Vernon, IN:
Call Sign: K9TJM
Grant Date: 12/10/1996, Expiration Date: 12/10/2006, Cancellation Date: 12/11/2008
Registrant: Vaughn M Wilson, 11412 Smith Diamond Rd, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: KA9JEQ, Licensee ID: L00996175
Grant Date: 09/07/2005, Expiration Date: 11/20/2015
Registrant: Arthur D Carroll, 7009 Sauerkraut Ln, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: KA9VRX, Licensee ID: L00260390
Grant Date: 07/04/2000, Expiration Date: 09/25/2010, Certifier: Melvin D Ziegler
Registrant: Melvin D Ziegler, 1625 Holler Rd, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: KB9CYH, Licensee ID: L01477699
Grant Date: 03/25/2009, Expiration Date: 06/15/2019, Certifier: Don A Viviano
Registrant: Don A Viviano, 408 Washington Ave, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: KB9JQY
Grant Date: 03/20/1995, Expiration Date: 03/20/2005, Cancellation Date: 03/21/2007
Registrant: Louis M Zeller Jr, R1 Box 298b, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: KB9NVJ, Licensee ID: L00409520
Grant Date: 06/07/2006, Expiration Date: 06/04/2016, Certifier: Donna M Ziegler
Registrant: Donna M Ziegler, 1625 Holler Rd, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: KB9OPU, Licensee ID: L00721099
Grant Date: 10/02/1996, Expiration Date: 10/02/2006, Cancellation Date: 10/03/2008
Registrant: Jason A Porter, 346 Riviera, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: KB9POL, Licensee ID: L00156470
Grant Date: 01/26/2007, Expiration Date: 02/12/2017, Certifier: Michael P O Risky
Registrant: Michael P O Risky, 4871 Scenic Lake Dr, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: KB9QAD, Licensee ID: L01201328
Grant Date: 03/02/2007, Expiration Date: 04/01/2017, Certifier: Robert L Lewis
Registrant: Robert L Lewis, 3901 Blackford Rd E, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: KB9RXF
Grant Date: 01/02/1998, Expiration Date: 01/02/2008, Cancellation Date: 01/05/2010
Registrant: Jeffrey A Jones, 708 E Second St, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: KB9SXL, Licensee ID: L01432438
Grant Date: 09/20/2008, Expiration Date: 09/20/2018
Registrant: Michael D Ziegler, 1616 Mackey Ferry, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: N0AWK
Grant Date: 11/28/1995, Expiration Date: 11/28/2005, Cancellation Date: 11/29/2007
Registrant: Roy R Odle, Box 116 Sauerkraut Ln, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: N9CCI, Previous Call Sign: WB9GMF, Licensee ID: L00659733
Grant Date: 03/24/2003, Expiration Date: 06/22/2013
Registrant: George D Louden, 901 E 5th St, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: N9DES, Licensee ID: L00430091
Grant Date: 09/14/2004, Expiration Date: 12/12/2014
Registrant: Scott A Egnew, 5841 Serenity Dr, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: N9JSO, Previous Call Sign: KB9ELU, Licensee ID: L00212308
Grant Date: 04/27/2010, Expiration Date: 05/29/2020
Registrant: Gary D Trammel, 7535 Sauerkraut Lane South, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: N9JWV, Previous Call Sign: KB9ELT, Licensee ID: L00272676
Grant Date: 07/29/2000, Expiration Date: 07/03/2010, Certifier: David A Angermeier
Registrant: David A Angermeier, 1617 Country Club Rd, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: N9RTA, Licensee ID: L00580470
Grant Date: 10/10/2002, Expiration Date: 01/05/2013
Registrant: Julian J Mohr, 1717 Ford Rd, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: N9TRV
Grant Date: 06/01/1993, Expiration Date: 06/01/2003, Cancellation Date: 06/02/2005
Registrant: Claude G Smithhart Sr, 902 E 5th St, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: W9HAU
Grant Date: 09/08/1992, Expiration Date: 09/08/2002, Cancellation Date: 09/09/2004
Registrant: Richard M Slocum, 330 Mulberry St, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: W9MLL
Grant Date: 10/20/1998, Expiration Date: 10/20/2008
Registrant: Frederick D Waller, 214 W 10th St, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: WB9LWU
Grant Date: 03/31/1998, Expiration Date: 03/31/2008, Cancellation Date: 04/01/2010
Registrant: Wayne J Southerland, 440 S Edson St Apt 4, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: WB9LWV
Grant Date: 03/31/1998, Expiration Date: 03/31/2008, Cancellation Date: 04/01/2010
Registrant: Shelby J Southerland, 440 S Edson St Apt 4, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: WB9TXR, Licensee ID: L00255635
Grant Date: 09/23/2008, Expiration Date: 12/18/2018, Certifier: David G Rideout
Registrant: David G Rideout, 11215 Grossman Rd, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: WD9DJP, Licensee ID: L00221963
Grant Date: 08/20/2008, Expiration Date: 10/15/2018, Certifier: Donald R Parkinson
Registrant: Donald R Parkinson, 510 Western Hills Dr, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: WD9GXG, Licensee ID: L01494152
Grant Date: 05/26/2009, Expiration Date: 06/29/2019, Certifier: Larry A Rhoads
Registrant: Larry A Rhoads, 7285 Sauerkraut Ln N, Mount Vernon, IN 47620-9412


Call Sign: KC9BUJ, Licensee ID: L00516926
Grant Date: 05/14/2002, Expiration Date: 05/14/2012, Certifier: Harold T Bratcher
Registrant: Harold T Bratcher, 1100 W 3rd, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: K9NEB, Previous Call Sign: KC9FPL, Licensee ID: L00825463
Grant Date: 04/13/2004, Expiration Date: 04/13/2014, Certifier: Nicholas E Bebout
Registrant: Nicholas E Bebout, Mount Vernon, IN 47620


Call Sign: KC9HOT, Licensee ID: L01013005
Grant Date: 05/04/2005, Expiration Date: 05/04/2015, Certifier: David R Anderson Iii
Registrant: David R Anderson Iii, 402 E Water St, Mount Vernon, IN 47620






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Re: I need someone to teach me for the test...
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2012, 03:48:56 PM »
AH,

Yes, amateur radio is a little like learning how to fly. Make a mistake flying and you die. Make a mistake in amateur radio and perhaps you just fry your rig or other peripheral equipment. Seriously screw up in amateur radio and you could loose your license or electrocute or RF burn yourself, either of which could be fatal. Yeah, nobody likes to crack a book and have to do that boring study stuff, but there are very good reasons for making newbies understand the basics before grabbing the controls of an airplane or putting the power to a transmitter. Just somebody a little ways up the ladder is trying to make sure that nobody says down the road that your hobby killed you.

Just trying to present a slightly different angle on this thing.  :)

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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2012, 02:07:15 AM »
AH,

Yes, amateur radio is a little like learning how to fly. Make a mistake flying and you die. Make a mistake in amateur radio and perhaps you just fry your rig or other peripheral equipment. Seriously screw up in amateur radio and you could loose your license or electrocute or RF burn yourself, either of which could be fatal. Yeah, nobody likes to crack a book and have to do that boring study stuff, but there are very good reasons for making newbies understand the basics before grabbing the controls of an airplane or putting the power to a transmitter. Just somebody a little ways up the ladder is trying to make sure that nobody says down the road that your hobby killed you.

Just trying to present a slightly different angle on this thing.  :)

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Inprinter makes a point, but there are soenm of us out there who really aren't interested in the rig side of things. I just want to get a mobile license for if/when Mom and I do HAM traffci control assistance with the local police forces, or if I'm doing long distance travel. We did that a few times, would turn on the Simplex channel and ask locals for where to eat, weatheer, how to get out of the construction chaos, etc.

AH, if you're really interested in cramming for the test, try www.qrz.com
Here's their test exams (lifted from old tests) http://qrz.com/ht/
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 11:12:08 AM »
Inprinter makes a point, but there are soenm of us out there who really aren't interested in the rig side of things. I just want to get a mobile license for if/when Mom and I do HAM traffci control assistance with the local police forces, or if I'm doing long distance travel. We did that a few times, would turn on the Simplex channel and ask locals for where to eat, weatheer, how to get out of the construction chaos, etc.

AH, if you're really interested in cramming for the test, try www.qrz.com
Here's their test exams (lifted from old tests) http://qrz.com/ht/


And you also make a very obvious point. I do recommend your approach versus not having the Tech License needed for 2 meter or 440Mhz operation as it probably will impart some knowledge just studying the questions and answers for the test. It will also keep you out of the clutches of some Barney Fife type character out there just salivating to get his hands on your nice radio equipment through legal confiscation and treating you like a common criminal.

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Re: I need someone to teach me for the test...
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 02:14:04 PM »
Do you all have some recommended books--not just for test-cram, but actually learning the info?  I do have a EE degree, so would prefer something not too hand-holdy, if that makes any sense...On the other hand, my specialty was digital (and was 25 years ago), so I've pretty much forgotten all my fields classes...  :)

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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2012, 04:38:27 PM »
Do you all have some recommended books--not just for test-cram, but actually learning the info?  I do have a EE degree, so would prefer something not too hand-holdy, if that makes any sense...On the other hand, my specialty was digital (and was 25 years ago), so I've pretty much forgotten all my fields classes...  :)

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ARRL puts out some really nice books and probably has them on DVD as well. There is a lot of material out there for someone interested in learning the material that is tested on the license exams. I know when I have gone to the Dayton, OH Hamvention there are quite a lot of materials offered for sale by vendors and the ARRL. You can visit ARRL.ORG to see their offerings.

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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2012, 10:35:55 AM »
Do you all have some recommended books--not just for test-cram, but actually learning the info?  I do have a EE degree, so would prefer something not too hand-holdy, if that makes any sense...On the other hand, my specialty was digital (and was 25 years ago), so I've pretty much forgotten all my fields classes...  :)

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I recommend the Gordon West book. Google it up.  I bought it and it was great, he goes over everything that is on the test in chapter form.  He gives you the actual question, then explains why and how and then shows you the answer why and how.  I read the book, took the practice quiz and passed each time I took it.  Really made it nice. 

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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2012, 11:17:27 AM »
Online practice tests

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Re: I need someone to teach me for the test...
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2012, 04:30:28 PM »
Thanks for the replies! My dad was a ham, and I've wanted to get my ticket for a long while--but the morse code put me off. As to the Gordon West Book, I noticed there were 4 books/cds listed on the qrz.com site--any recommendations as to which one(s) to get? or all of them? or are some packages that contain the others--can't tell for sure from the description, though it appears that one is an audio version of the book.

I noticed ARRL also had a manual/practice exam for sale--Does anyone have an opinion on theirs vs the Gordon West?

Thanks again!

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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2012, 08:53:46 AM »
I did several of the practice exams and a buddy that is a ham (and has been for years and was an examiner for years) let me onto the Gordon West book because as he said it had all the stuff in it and he explained it.  I was pleased by how the book is done and it comes with a CD but I'm more into reading the book.  He goes through everything, so you aren't left in the dark at all. 

I'd certainly do a book method if you want to learn it well, regardless of who does the book.  I just suggest Gordon West's book because I've used it and it works well.

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Re: I need someone to teach me for the test...
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2012, 08:02:22 PM »
I don't mean to offend anyone, but why is this an issue for first responders, as they are covered by the parent organization's license (as that was the original question)?

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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2012, 01:44:50 AM »
I don't mean to offend anyone, but why is this an issue for first responders, as they are covered by the parent organization's license (as that was the original question)?

I'm confused,t he orignal question I see is Apaulling asking for advice on learning, not the First Responders.

When we ran Net Control for Parades and Halloween (What they called Goblin Patrol, essentially neighborhhod watch with radios) The POLICE weren't technically allowed into the HAM bands, those were reserved for Ametuer use only. Likewise, even though the Ham operators were working with the Police, they could not cross over and talk on the Police Frequency. The parent organizations, in this case the Police Departments, cover the Police use of the Police channels, not the designated HAM channels, which falls under federal jurisdiction. Usually what happened was the Net Control operator would either be close to an officer or have the chief's phone number and would have the scanner going (mostly legal in this case) on one radio and the designated channel Net Control was using on another, and net Control would end up relaying between the two. Police gets a report of a missign kid, or is ready to start the parade, NC keys up and relays the info, then speed-dials the desiganted officer and says "We have the kid" or "We're all set" or what have you. And let me tell you it was an interestign feat trying to talk to Mom during the Fall Festival, between me, the hams on the radio, the Police on the phone, I had no idea what conversation she was in.

Sadly, speaking of Barney Fifes, the had dick Dick out here right now is of the impression he don't need no help, his two liitle police cars and suburban can cover Clayton, Stilesville, Amo, Belleville, and rural areas in between just fine. No, I'm not sure how he manages to close off the intersections fo rour Fall Festival parade. Danville still makes, or did the last time I heard, good use out of their local HAM population though.
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2012, 06:32:09 PM »
Just ordered the Gordon West book with practice test software.  We'll see if it gets me past the test!

Thanks, y'all!

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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2012, 10:15:06 PM »
I'm confused,t he orignal question I see is Apaulling asking for advice on learning, not the First Responders.
When we ran Net Control for Parades and Halloween (What they called Goblin Patrol, essentially neighborhhod watch with radios) The POLICE weren't technically allowed into the HAM bands, those were reserved for Ametuer use only. Likewise, even though the Ham operators were working with the Police, they could not cross over and talk on the Police Frequency. The parent organizations, in this case the Police Departments, cover the Police use of the Police channels,

I thought the initial poster was referring to performing aux. police or fire police roles, neither of which use amateur radios here. Sorry!

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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2012, 09:48:19 PM »
Just ordered the Gordon West book with practice test software.  We'll see if it gets me past the test!

Thanks, y'all!

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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2012, 01:57:16 PM »
Just took the test this morning; while I was at it I took the "general" exam as well.  Actually did better on that one (I was doing sample tests on it last night & early this AM). They wanted to me to try the "extra", but since I hadn't even looked at this questions I figured it was a waste-of-time to even try. Looking at the question list, yeah, no way would I have passed that one!  I may try that one next month, though there is a ton of questions for that exam.

sooooo, now that I should be legal in a couple of days, I sorta need to get a radio---don't have a clue here ??? ! Also, though I'll be legal, I still need to learn the HOW part of this so I kinda know what I'm doing...

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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2012, 04:54:29 PM »
David,

Congratulations on testing all the way to General Class license level. I think you chose correctly on passing on the Extra Class test. I have been studying that material for a month or so and it is much more technical than the other two tests. Check out the following link every few days and you will be able to check and see if your license and callsign have been issued by the FCC. Just follow the directions on the page(you will have to search based on your name).

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchAmateur.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=563ZTfTTLR67q0Sj1Wnpk6PSfbLTmNVjp7HSsGLgbd4QpnWptLQz!1526404178!-533095898

Would suggest that you either try to find someone in your area that is already a Ham that would be willing to work with you on getting some equipment, or hook up with one of the Amateur Radio Clubs in your area. There are several to choose from in Indiana. Do some Googling on the internet and you will find the clubs.

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