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The Southern is coming North
« on: September 07, 2011, 06:27:34 PM »
NS 4610 is third out on 124 and will be on the New Castle/Frankfort tonight or very early tomorrow.  4275/4271 are moving light as 955 out of Chatt, almost to Burnside.  There is no profile so I don't know if they will go to Monticello via the New Castle/Frankfort or the Southern, or if they will go to Altoona via Columbus, OH as someone has suggested.

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2011, 06:39:04 PM »
I asked the Monticello museum people last week if the F units would be attending and was told no, so they will probably just go on back to Altoona I would imagine?

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 07:13:22 PM »
955 is ordered out of Cincinnati with a Columbus crew.  But 4610 is a 100% deal.

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2011, 10:52:55 PM »
Please keep the 4610 info coming. A HIGH interest in her here!!  Been a long long time since she came north...

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2011, 08:22:26 AM »
Anyone know if 124 has even arrived/departed frankfort and if it hasn't departed Frankfort any chance anyone knows a time frame for when it will.

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2011, 08:57:53 AM »
Anyone know if 124 has even arrived/departed frankfort and if it hasn't departed Frankfort any chance anyone knows a time frame for when it will.
124 has arrived (and doesn't leave during the day anyway).  4610 was set off in Muncie.  I wasn't expecting that.

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2011, 10:09:19 AM »
I managed to catch it this morning as is was running light to the East Yard. I didn't expect to hear the Dispatch to tell a crew to go out to Vernon and bring it back. I grabbed my camera and made my way around Muncie until I found the engine and then went back into town and waited for it to show up. I managed to grab it at Powers and Council Street's...

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2011, 06:31:18 PM »
There was a 926 called out of Frankfort at 3:45pm to cab to Muncie.  I'd imagine (but can't confirm) to bring 4610 over and probably put it back on 124.

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2011, 06:45:26 PM »
There was a 926 called out of Frankfort at 3:45pm to cab to Muncie.  I'd imagine (but can't confirm) to bring 4610 over and probably put it back on 124.
925 put its train in Noell, from Gilman, then was to take its lead unit to east yard, dispatcher said a crew called out of Frankfort to get it and return.  I'm betting you are correct, put it on there and take it west.  However it will no double be a night move west.

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2011, 07:31:33 PM »
Well it looks like it was used on L68 with... what?  5401.  An SOU and a CON!!!  I feel defeated.   >:(

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2011, 07:44:26 PM »
Well it looks like it was used on L68 with... what?  5401.  An SOU and a CON!!!  I feel defeated.   >:(

Defeated is the nice friendly forum term for it.    ;D

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2011, 09:01:44 PM »
There was a 926 called out of Frankfort at 3:45pm to cab to Muncie.  I'd imagine (but can't confirm) to bring 4610 over and probably put it back on 124.
False alarm.  926 has the same engines as the ballast train that CIOR got and 4610 is in Ft. Wayne.

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2011, 09:23:49 PM »
What are the chances of it coming west down the Wabash out of Ft Wayne?   Perhaps 35N or somebody will pick it up to take west with them?     

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2011, 10:26:27 PM »
Don't get me wrong, I really like seeing the Southern colors running the rails once again. However, couldn't NS have at least painted up a loco that actually would have run on the Southern. A GP59? Give me a break! It doesn't even have a high short hood. They probably run it backwards as well! They probably have 10 times more GP50's in the roster and probably some of those are even actual Southern units, maybe even with high hoods that run in the right direction. Obviously, someone with "Norfolk" running in their veins is trying to put one over on the "South"ern end of things.

I thought that was a wonderful rant and certainly got that out of my system. Actually, they could have painted up a wheelbarrow in that best of all time railroad paint schemes and I would have stopped and looked. Just sorry I probably won't get a chance to see it in person since I'm just a poor working stiff.

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2011, 12:24:54 AM »
Wow.  I guess you don't like the UP heritage program because they use SD70ACe's  :P  Where's the NW engine at?  Not fair.

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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2011, 01:13:01 AM »
Wow.  I guess you don't like the UP heritage program because they use SD70ACe's  :P  Where's the NW engine at?  Not fair.


Sorta off topic...but according to lionel you can make anything an SD-70Ace :P Even Southern, Conrail, Norfolk Western, and Virginian. personaly I think they look crappy. they should have just modded old scemes to fit the ace.
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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2011, 09:57:02 AM »
Wow.  I guess you don't like the UP heritage program because they use SD70ACe's  :P  Where's the NW engine at?  Not fair.

Actually, I like the UP heritage engines and own several models of them including the 4141 GHWB unit that pulls my Presidential boxcar set. Ididn't grow up with UP but did Southern. Once it's in your blood then you sort of get picky about those things. UP, I could care less, the heritage units all look real nice on the SD70ace's and that works for me. However, a GP59 painted in Southern colors, give me a break as I already said(but I'll take it anyway since it looks nice) ;D.

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2011, 09:59:48 AM »


Sorta off topic...but according to lionel you can make anything an SD-70Ace :P Even Southern, Conrail, Norfolk Western, and Virginian. personaly I think they look crappy. they should have just modded old scemes to fit the ace.

You are right about that "Southern" unit looking crappy.

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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2011, 10:18:41 AM »
And what about all of us NKP guys?

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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2011, 02:55:41 PM »
And what about all of us NKP guys?

Oh, just come down to 96th St. crossing once a year and watch the Fair Train go by.  ::) ::) ::)

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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2011, 03:27:38 PM »
Does anyone else notice that there are FAR MORE SOU cars running around untouched than NW?  N&W was a 50-50 partner in the merger (so they claim) and where is the N&W heritage unit?  It's a darn good thing it was an end-to-end merger, as the green team is definately running the paint booth, among other things.

See Imprinter, you're not the only one who wants to rant about paint. :-X OK I'll shut up now.
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2011, 04:34:40 PM »
NW should have one too.  All these SOU steam engines, cars , SOU-inspired F's... it's kinda gross :-X not having equal representation for the NW workers. 

ANYWAY... Back on topic, 35N took it to Peru and set it off today.

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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2011, 04:48:57 PM »
NW should have one too.  All these SOU steam engines, cars , SOU-inspired F's... it's kinda gross :-X not having equal representation for the NW workers. 

ANYWAY... Back on topic, 35N took it to Peru and set it off today.

I ain't a bit worried about the N&W, I'm more into the NKP.....   ;)

Oh and do trust that the SOUTHERN was in charge, the mentality is what is todays NS management style.  All the old heads talked at length about how it changed for the worse when the merger happened and the managers showed up.

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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2011, 04:50:21 PM »
Oh and do trust that the SOUTHERN was in charge, the mentality is what is todays NS management style.  All the old heads talked at length about how it changed for the worse when the merger happened and the managers showed up.
Fer sher.  You can tell when you're in a SOUTHERN yard.

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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2011, 05:03:50 PM »
Fer sher.  You can tell when you're in a SOUTHERN yard.

Besides the bad looks you get as a "Northerner"..  haha
The old heads use to tell us how fun it was when they first started running down there.

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« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2011, 05:14:18 PM »
Besides the bad looks you get as a "Northerner"..  haha
The old heads use to tell us how fun it was when they first started running down there.
A few of them still tell us.  My favorite line from an old head story, he said to a Southern TM... "I don't work for the Southern, I work for the NORFOLK Southern".

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2011, 06:06:38 PM »
The Southern 4610 is currently sitting by itself at the west end of the yard at Peru.    It was set out by the 35N this morning.
         
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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2011, 06:52:29 PM »
Hope she is still in Peru tomorrow so I can make the long track to get some photos. Any info one way or another would be appreciated.

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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2011, 02:17:58 PM »
Noon today she was still there, see Flickr map at http://www.flickr.com/photos/78129268@N00/6133185617/in/photostream/ for location
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Sorta off topic...but according to lionel you can make anything an SD-70Ace :P Even Southern, Conrail, Norfolk Western, and Virginian. personaly I think they look crappy. they should have just modded old scemes to fit the ace.

That Conrail unit makes me wanna throw up.  What's with the black vertical stripes?? >:(
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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2011, 10:47:13 AM »
Back on topic once again, 4610 is on display in Peru for NS Family Day today.  Pics obtained, of course.  I haven't been to Peru in a while so I didn't know about the event.

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« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2011, 03:54:35 PM »
MMM. (trys to justify the 140 mile round trip drive to see it...)
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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2011, 07:29:56 PM »
My it's looking rough. Cab numbers and Southern lettering on the long hoods are way over due for a touchup, but it was still nice seeing the unit still there as of a half hour ago. Steps were still there, but I didn't venture over for a closer inspection despite no one near the unit except the yard cab drivers. Jay

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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2011, 08:28:38 PM »
Anybody know if the 4610 will be coming back east now that the Monticello event is over?




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Re: The Southern is coming North
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2011, 03:15:02 AM »
I'm guessing it'll go back South via Louisville.

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« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2017, 04:36:47 PM »
We are seeing a lot of N&W Covered Hoppers coming up the INRD from the South Loaded. Just the other day there were 3 or 4 of them going up to Indy.