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NS proposes to use brake test "video game" simulation...
« on: February 06, 2019, 12:36:11 PM »
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2019/02/06/2019-01223/petition-for-waiver-of-compliance

NS wants to use a web based "game" simulation to replace real world testing....
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Re: NS proposes to use brake test "video game" simulation...
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2019, 02:15:53 PM »
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2019/02/06/2019-01223/petition-for-waiver-of-compliance

NS wants to use a web based "game" simulation to replace real world testing....
Because we all know computer simulations mimics real world situations 100% of the time. 


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Re: NS proposes to use brake test "video game" simulation...
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2019, 02:35:58 PM »
FRA allows yearly recertifications to take place on simulators.  No reason they canít try and use other training with it too.

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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2019, 02:38:19 PM »
FRA allows yearly recertifications to take place on simulators.  No reason they canít try and use other training with it too.
What craft? 


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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2019, 03:29:29 PM »
What craft? 


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Engineer and RCO operator licenses can get their yearly rides on the simulator. 

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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2019, 03:39:29 PM »
Engineer and RCO operator licenses can get their yearly rides on the simulator.
I didnít know that.  Ns requires recertifications for engineers to be done by a qualified employee.  Yearly check rides are done via pulling the tapes though. 


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Re: NS proposes to use brake test "video game" simulation...
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2019, 01:00:04 AM »
"showing 78 on the rear, flows down, setem up....." :D
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Re: NS proposes to use brake test "video game" simulation...
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2019, 09:07:30 AM »
"showing 78 on the rear, flows down, setem up....." :D
Love it!!! 


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Re: NS proposes to use brake test "video game" simulation...
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2019, 12:42:19 PM »
Reminds me of the time that management ("manglement?") at the company where I worked had us take fire extinguisher training online.

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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2019, 12:52:36 PM »
I guess for certain things itís not that bad for a conductor.  I donít think itís a good idea for setting up a conductor.  They need to be able to physically demonstrate how to couple up hoses, cut out a car, etc... 

I canít say for Carmen and what they need to be able to demonstrate.  I know ns requires their carmen to know every inch of piping, sizes of said pipes and everything from hose to hose on a freight car by memory before leaving school.




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Re: NS proposes to use brake test "video game" simulation...
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2019, 12:56:55 PM »
someday a railroad employee may operate a train from a remote location much as the drones in the middle east are actually "flown" by personnel in the US
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2019, 01:18:38 PM »
someday a railroad employee may operate a train from a remote location much as the drones in the middle east are actually "flown" by personnel in the US
True but that drone operator canít actually fly.  I can run a train on a simulator, doesnít mean Iím qualified to run one in person.  If you are required to still physically operate a piece of equipment then you should be required to show that you can on said piece of equipment.  Not via a simulator.


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Re: NS proposes to use brake test "video game" simulation...
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2019, 01:33:15 PM »
someday a railroad employee may operate a train from a remote location much as the drones in the middle east are actually "flown" by personnel in the US

True, but that drone still needs people on the ground to fuel it, (load munitions, if it has weapons), launch it, and retrieve it (I sure hope they retrieve them, given the price tag!).  And those people need hands-on trained experience in handling the fuel and munitions.
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Re: NS proposes to use brake test "video game" simulation...
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2019, 08:09:39 PM »
According to the filing the simulator will be able to show cars with defects, air not working, etc.

Stuff that is possible to see in the field, if you happen across it.  The simulator will allow them to be taught in s controlled environment where missing it doesnít cause any harm.

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Re: NS proposes to use brake test "video game" simulation...
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2019, 11:27:00 PM »
someday a railroad employee may operate a train from a remote location much as the drones in the middle east are actually "flown" by personnel in the US

The system is fully automated, and nothing can go wrong
                                                                                    go wrong
                                                                                                   go wrong
                                                                                                                  go wrong.

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Re: NS proposes to use brake test "video game" simulation...
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2019, 10:55:24 PM »
Maybe this is worth noting:

In the December issue of Railway Age, Clark Cheng, NS's Senior Director of
Operations Research said, "We want to  be a tech company that runs trains."


 

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Re: NS proposes to use brake test "video game" simulation...
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2019, 12:19:09 PM »
Maybe this is worth noting:

In the December issue of Railway Age, Clark Cheng, NS's Senior Director of
Operations Research said, "We want to  be a tech company that runs trains."


*GAG* OK, now we know we're really close to the root cause of the problem.  Start by firing that guy...

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