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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1700 on: December 05, 2018, 12:58:38 PM »
I find it curious that the “tremendous amount of excitement” about the trail seems to only ever come from Fadness and other politicians. Where are the statements from and actions by general citizens who are allegedly so "excited" about the trail? It certainly seems like they are in a large minority compared to those in favor of keeping the rails intact.

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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1701 on: December 05, 2018, 03:56:59 PM »
I think Mayor Fadness and all his co-horts have been hitting the herbal therapy and the glass pipe too much, swirling in their own clouds, and wearing rose-tinted glasses for them to have 'so much enthusiasm for the trail'...

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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1702 on: December 05, 2018, 07:12:51 PM »
9.3 million for a trail!!!  That thing better have  radiant heat under it, overhead canopy, traffic lights, self cleaning asphalt, and be 20’ wide.  WTH are they smoking.  How long exactly is this section of trail? 


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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1703 on: December 05, 2018, 09:29:21 PM »
9.3 million for a trail!!!  That thing better have  radiant heat under it, overhead canopy, traffic lights, self cleaning asphalt, and be 20’ wide.  WTH are they smoking.  How long exactly is this section of trail?

The Fishers segment would be 5.7 miles, from 96th Street (the Marion County - Hamilton County line) north to 146th Street (the border between Fishers and Noblesville).

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ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1704 on: December 05, 2018, 10:55:11 PM »
The Fishers segment would be 5.7 miles, from 96th Street (the Marion County - Hamilton County line) north to 146th Street (the border between Fishers and Noblesville).
So, about $1,600,000/mile for a path? 


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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1705 on: December 06, 2018, 08:48:49 AM »
I think a potential tunnel under the major streets might skew the cost/mile somewhat. 
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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1706 on: December 06, 2018, 10:00:48 AM »
I think a potential tunnel under the major streets might skew the cost/mile somewhat.
They want to build a tunnel?  Are you serious?  We have trails up here that intersect with busy city roads and state roads with no problems.  Are they assuming hundreds of people will be using this daily?  4-5 months out of the year it will be minimally used because of weather.


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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1707 on: December 06, 2018, 02:02:04 PM »
That sums up to a Very Big Waste of Tax Payer Money. Keep the Railroad, Its Cheeper

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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1709 on: December 06, 2018, 04:33:56 PM »
They want to build a tunnel?  Are you serious?

That sums up to a Very Big Waste of Tax Payer Money. Keep the Railroad, Its Cheeper

Until someone gets smoked by a car and sued anyone and everyone associated with the trail.

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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1710 on: December 06, 2018, 08:59:13 PM »
Until someone gets smoked by a car and sued anyone and everyone associated with the trail.
Does the city get sued when a pedestrian gets hit crossing, walking or riding across or down the road? 


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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1711 on: December 06, 2018, 09:07:14 PM »
Does the city get sued when a pedestrian gets hit crossing, walking or riding across or down the road? 


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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1712 on: December 06, 2018, 09:52:46 PM »
Does the city get sued when a pedestrian gets hit crossing, walking or riding across or down the road? 


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In this day and age....Absolutely they can!!  You're crazy to think otherwise..

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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1713 on: December 06, 2018, 09:59:08 PM »
In this day and age....Absolutely they can!!  You're crazy to think otherwise..
I don’t think so. 


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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1714 on: December 06, 2018, 09:59:46 PM »
They want to build a tunnel?  Are you serious?  We have trails up here that intersect with busy city roads and state roads with no problems.  Are they assuming hundreds of people will be using this daily?  4-5 months out of the year it will be minimally used because of weather.


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Not sure what the traffic count is per day on 116th but it's crazy busy and would be very dangerous to try and get across.  Accidents would for sure happen. Speed limit is 25mph right at the tracks but cars go 40+  FPD NEVER pulls anyone over in that area.  Not really sure why.  Crossing it at certain times of day would be extremely dangerous.  It will be used year round as is the Monon is but not as popular in the winter months obviously.  We don't get the snow like you do up north   

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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1715 on: December 06, 2018, 10:03:54 PM »
I don’t think so. 


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Yes they could....EX. Pedestrian that gets hit in crosswalk at night and sues city because said person claims that it wasn't well lit enough or a street light was burned out.  Jury sides with pedestrian.  Of course I made this up but yes it could happen with the right lawyer 

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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1716 on: December 06, 2018, 10:07:10 PM »
Yes they could....EX. Pedestrian that gets hit in crosswalk at night and sues city because said person claims that it wasn't well lit enough or a street light was burned out.  Jury sides with pedestrian.  Of course I made this up but yes it could happen with the right lawyer
Of course if there is a problem with the intersection like you described but under normal circumstances the city just laughs at those. 

I didn’t realize 116 was that busy.  Tunnel would definitely be a good idea especially around the people in that area


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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1717 on: December 07, 2018, 01:22:38 AM »
It should be named the Gold Plate Trail
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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1718 on: December 07, 2018, 06:46:45 AM »
Yes they could....EX. Pedestrian that gets hit in crosswalk at night and sues city because said person claims that it wasn't well lit enough or a street light was burned out.  Jury sides with pedestrian.  Of course I made this up but yes it could happen with the right lawyer

Indiana law is really strict about what can and can not be sued for. If the law says something isn't valid as the basis of a lawsuit, the judge can throw it out before a jury ever gets to make a decision.

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Re: ITM / Fishers in a dispute
« Reply #1719 on: December 07, 2018, 06:53:52 AM »
Indiana law is really strict about what can and can not be sued for. If the law says something isn't valid as the basis of a lawsuit, the judge can throw it out before a jury ever gets to make a decision.

Yes very true. A lot of silly lawsuits are thrown out