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jeb1978

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Big Four (CCC&StL) Map
« on: January 02, 2008, 02:29:09 PM »
Does anyone know of a Big Four system map on the web anywhere? 

I found one on this site (http://www.indianarailroads.org/maps/bigfour.jpg), which is good, but it's difficult to read the text. 

I also found a full set of CCC&StL track charts from 1950 (http://www.railsandtrails.com/TC/CCCStL/1950c-system/index.html), which is neat, but there's no overall map attached.

I'm just curious as of late how much the Big Four system added to the NYC system when it was acquired... it appears to be quite a bit.

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Re: Big Four (CCC&StL) Map
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2008, 06:39:18 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Central_Railroad

this site has some pretty general info, but there are several maps on the right side of the page.  you can open any of them as a seperate page then click the map and it will give you the option to enlarge them.  i did it with the map from 1918 and i could clearly read the name of every town there.

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Re: Big Four (CCC&StL) Map
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2008, 07:16:38 PM »
This one has a lot of maps plus other goodies..Hope this helps.
http://www.multimodalways.org/archives/rrs/rrs.html
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Re: Big Four (CCC&StL) Map
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2008, 01:38:37 PM »
Bartoli wrote: I'm just curious as of late how much the Big Four system added to the NYC system when it was acquired... it appears to be quite a bit.

The Big-4 owned or leased 2,222 miles of line, about 875 (39 percent) of which were in Indiana (673 owned and 201 leased).

The NYC owned, leased or controlled 10,356 miles, so the Big-4 was 21 percent of NYC.  NYC controlled the Big-4 through stock ownership.

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Re: Big Four (CCC&StL) Map
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2008, 03:31:15 PM »
Thanks for bringing it up.Because almost everyone in the state had a "Big Four" connection.
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Re: Big Four (CCC&StL) Map
« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2008, 11:47:39 AM »
I've got a map from 1970 of Indy I'd be willing to scan sections of for you.  If its not too new that is.  It even shows a rail yard labeling itself as the big four yard.  I also noticed if you use the satelite view of google maps you can see where the roundhouse was at Hawthorne yard.  The lines in the ground quite visably take the shape of it.
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Re: Big Four (CCC&StL) Map
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2008, 08:57:22 AM »
Avon is the Big Four Yard.

Hawthorne was a PRR property.

NYC (CCCStL) had Brightwood (covered in a previous thread), Shelby St, and in later years, Avon.

State St was B&O and PRR side-by-side

Hill was CCCStL

Senate was ICRR

Moorefield was B&O (even had a small roundhouse and table)

did I miss any?

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Re: Big Four (CCC&StL) Map
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2008, 12:27:34 PM »
Caven Yd (PRR)  Southwest side by Farm Bureau

Transfer Yd. (PRR)

Westside Yd. (NYC)

Stockyards Yd (Belt)  Also had a roundhouse at one time I believe