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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2014, 09:46:37 AM »
CSX did not remove the diamonds until 2010.
My memory tells me more like Spring 2006. Could be wrong.

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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2014, 09:47:16 AM »
...when NS sold this line to HHPA, INRD got the freight traffic rights for the line, which at the time was only the one customer. In 2002, the power plant switched from coal to natural gas, eliminating the need for freight service. I do not know if INRD still holds the rights.

After HHPA acquired the line no one "got the freight traffic rights." In a 1996 agreement between HHPA and the Museum, ITM became the designated operator of the line but was prohibited from moving freight. ITM negotiated contracts almost annually for INRD to haul coal to the plant at Riverwood. The contracts are on file at the Museum's office. ITM could have picked another freight operator had another railroad been interested but INRD was undoubtedly the only logical choice when you consider that the HHPA line could be accessed only via the belt.

BTW, we sure are getting a long way away from FairTrain (note the spelling used by ITM) 2014.

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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2014, 10:01:00 AM »
My memory tells me more like Spring 2006. Could be wrong.
It was actually February 2008.

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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2014, 10:03:28 AM »
After HHPA acquired the line no one "got the freight traffic rights." In a 1996 agreement between HHPA and the Museum, ITM became the designated operator of the line but was prohibited from moving freight. ITM negotiated contracts almost annually for INRD to haul coal to the plant at Riverwood. The contracts are on file at the Museum's office. ITM could have picked another freight operator had another railroad been interested but INRD was undoubtedly the only logical choice when you consider that the HHPA line could be accessed only via the belt.

BTW, we sure are getting a long way away from FairTrain (note the spelling used by ITM) 2014.

Before that. NS owned the line and it was leased to the INRD thru it's short line program.
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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2014, 03:19:41 AM »
You mean to tell me this connection survived up untill 2008? Wow! I'm going to leave this one alone tonight.

Well 2+2 equal 4 now. A buddy of mine was a pipe fitter, and worked on the plant. I had the prints for a while. This must have been part of all that construction, because thats about the time i started to pick his brain about trade information as a teenager.


Any extra cars going to be on this years fair train for all the extra concert goers? A diner car serving ice water would help the drunks this year. LOL
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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2014, 10:45:08 AM »
Is The 200 going to be on the Fair Train or is being Repainted?

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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2014, 03:08:05 PM »
Is The 200 going to be on the Fair Train or is being Repainted?

Last I heard it was - with 96C out of action these days (flywheel), 426 under maintenance, 72 still being overhauled, and 587 still out of service there isn't anything left to pull it.

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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2014, 03:21:23 PM »
96C has had a broken flywheel for 10 years +

Push comes to shove there is the Baldwin S unit. I think it might run.

The SW1 could be pressed into service if they are desperate. But it would require the other engine to be pushing the other end.
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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2014, 04:02:06 PM »
Last I heard it was - with 96C out of action these days (flywheel), 426 under maintenance, 72 still being overhauled, and 587 still out of service there isn't anything left to pull it.
The consist will be pulled by ex-NKP#426 (its maintenance is done) and ITMZ#83 (still in the attractive "what-if" NKP paint scheme).  The 1929 Pullman NKP#1 will again be behind the south locomotive as an optional first class upgrade.  At least 5 of ITM's 1937 Budd streamliner coaches will be on the train, with the ex-GN Silver Salon #1602 behind the north locomotive providing electricity for the coaches.  Last year ITM acquired a smaller, more fuel-efficient Gen Set which does the same job while running cooler and quieter than the old beast.

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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2014, 04:52:05 PM »
The consist will be pulled by ex-NKP#426 (its maintenance is done) and ITMZ#83 (still in the attractive "what-if" NKP paint scheme).  The 1929 Pullman NKP#1 will again be behind the south locomotive as an optional first class upgrade.  At least 5 of ITM's 1937 Budd streamliner coaches will be on the train, with the ex-GN Silver Salon #1602 behind the north locomotive providing electricity for the coaches.  Last year ITM acquired a smaller, more fuel-efficient Gen Set which does the same job while running cooler and quieter than the old beast.

How many coaches are operable. Last I heard there were 7 or 8 that could be called on.
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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2014, 11:17:21 PM »
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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2014, 11:44:36 PM »
96C has had a broken flywheel for 10 years +

Push comes to shove there is the Baldwin S unit. I think it might run.

The SW1 could be pressed into service if they are desperate. But it would require the other engine to be pushing the other end.

The S unit is short a traction motor. I'm told it'll run enough to movie itself out of the display line, but there's no haste to it. the 44tonner will turn over, I watched a crew scare the ever-loving crap out of a family of raccoons living in the hood getting her to wake up. but again, she's pretty snugly buried behind a LOT of cars.

I don't think its any secret that the plan is/was to steal a flywheel out of the B unit barring one being located for cheap, but to do that requires nearly complete disassembly of both locomotives to GET to them, so it ain't happening for a while.

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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2014, 02:38:46 PM »
Anyone Got Any Pictures of the Train Yet with the Nickle Plate F Unit Leading?

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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2014, 04:40:45 PM »
What are the departure times from Fishers?

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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2014, 04:44:39 PM »
What are the departure times from Fishers?

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Don't know why I asked that. Disregard.

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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2014, 11:40:30 PM »
Went to the fair today, rode the train. There is a noticeable difference in the ride, you can tell work has been done to the line. Nice ride today, ITM!
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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2014, 05:08:27 PM »
Well went up to Erie Street and Caught the Train Today. I like that F Unit in the Nickle Plate Blue and White Scheme. The GP along with the F Unit Looked Good.

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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2014, 05:21:25 PM »
So what geep are they using? I thought 200 was being repainted.

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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2014, 05:22:33 PM »
So what geep are they using? I thought 200 was being repainted.

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Re: Fair Train 2014
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2014, 08:21:27 PM »
Nickle Plate.