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Re: Historic Indiana Cabooses
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2010, 08:06:09 PM »
"Disko - NKP 1142, wood, cupola?, Siders & Son Gravel, Rt. 114, Wabash, County."

centered cupola, built by ACF 6/1909, used as an office, on truck is marked NKP, the other GN.

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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2010, 08:20:17 PM »
Therer is a Caboose near Sharpsville Indiana at the Summer Place.

http://www.asummerplace.org/index_files/Page718.htm

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Re: Historic Indiana Cabooses
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2010, 10:28:21 PM »
Bob said, "Centered cupola, built by ACF 6/1909, used as an office, one truck is marked NKP, the other GN." (NKP 1142)


Bob, Thanks!  Roger

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Re: Historic Indiana Cabooses
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2010, 10:33:38 PM »
Garry Tidler said, "There's a Caboose near Sharpsville, Indiana at the Summer Place.
http://www.asummerplace.org/index_files/Page718.htm "


Hi Garry,

N&W 518642 to NS 555642 to Sharpsville, IN.

Thanks for the information, Roger

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« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2010, 04:32:24 PM »
Hi,

Here are the E-Town cabooses:

East Chicago - EJ&E #? to Station 416 LTVX 889, steel, cupola, Mittel Indiana Harbor Works;
               - EJ&E 504, steel, cupola, reportedly sold by Mittel Indiana Harbor works, gone to?
               - RM 19 to IHB 19, steel, cupola, Indiana Harbor Belt, from Union Station, St. Louis;

Elkhart - ATSF #? to IHB 75, steel, cupola, New York Central Railroad Museum;
           - CR 21230, no markings, steel, small bay window, blt. 7/78, as above;
           - MNS 010, steel, bay window (removed), as above;
           - NYC 18136 to PC 18136 to CR 18136, steel, transfer, as above;
           - NYC 19211, wood, cupola, built 1907, as above;
           - NYC 21084 to PC 21084 to CR 21084, steel, small bay window, as above;
           - PRR #?, steel, cupola, Class N5C, as above (stored off site - where?);

            - SOU X538 to NS/ALAB/BSOR/E&W 500007, steel, bay window, Goshen Avenue;

Elnora - B&O #?, wood, cupola, Daviess Co. Fairgrounds, Rt. 57, was at Co. Hist. Mus., Washington;

Etna Green - MNS 06? (ex-NP?), wood, cupola, City Park;

Evansville - L&N 1016 to L&N 108, steel, bay window, 8214 Old State Road;
               - L&N 132 to L&NX 132 to L&N 132, wood, cupola, Evansville Mus.Trans.Ctr., 411 SE Riverside Dr.
               - MP 13525, steel, wide vision cupola, Midwest Locomotive, Harwood Yard, from Kansas City, MO.

Any help with missing data, corrections, &/or additions will be appreciated!

Thanks, Roger

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Historic Indiana Cabooses the Fs
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2010, 07:48:05 PM »
Hi,

Indiana towns that start with the letter F and have cabooses:

Farmersburg - SOO 26 as RAMX 0026, steel, wide vision cupola, Black Beauty Coal Mine, e. of town;

Fort Wayne - B&O C2236 as Willow Creek Crossing, wood, cupola, apartments, Lower Huntington Rd.;
                 - MNS 08 as 351/8?, steel, bay window, Vince Tippmann, 2320 Meyer Rd., from I-H;

Fortville - UP 25267, steel, cupola, Butch Morez, 1839 West 1000 North, from CI&WRR, Lapel, IN;

Frankfort - NKP 1202, ex-N&W 559202, wood, cupola, Travelers Protective Association. Park, Kyger St.;

Franklin - NYC/PC/CR 21???, Class N7A, steel, small bay window, PRR Depot, 370 East Jefferson St.;

French Lick - B&O C2152, wood, cupola, Indiana Railway Museum, from Loogootee, IN, poor condition;
                - ICG 199422, steel, wide vision cupola, French Lick, West Baden & Southern Railroad;
                - ICG 199611 as IRM 961, steel, cupola, side door, as above;
                - MONON 81532 to L&N 923/6923 to 40107 dynometer, steel, bay window cupola, as above;
                - NKP 416 to N&W 557516, steel, bay window, as above;
                - NYC/P&E/PC/CR 21496 to fake C&EI 1953, steel, bay window, as above;
                - RM 10 as Columbus Warehouse & Cartage 10, steel, bay window & cupola, Ind. Rwy. Mus.

There are number question on the MNS car at Fort Wayne and the NYC/PC/CR car at Franklin.

Thanks, Roger

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« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2010, 03:35:46 PM »
Corydon? - LNAC 1883, wood, small bay window, was at Walnut & Water Sts., now at cement plant or ?   Does anyone know the origin of this car?  I'd guess it was a center cupola car rebuilt to a bay window car, but ...?


http://cencalrails.railfan.net/lna&c1883srkcoll.jpg

If it's a rebuild of the old LNAC crummy, it was originally built as a sidedoor hack, and the bay window was added during a rebuild to cover the former sidedoor. I think there was a black-and-white pic of the original in Sulzer's *Ghost Railroads* book.

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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2010, 10:14:03 PM »

Corydon? - LNAC 1883, wood, small bay window, was at Walnut & Water Sts., now at cement plant or ?   Does anyone know the origin of this car?  I'd guess it was a center cupola car rebuilt to a bay window car, but ...?

Thanks, Roger

Last night I received a six paragraph message about the LNA&C caboose 1883 at Corydon from my friend who with a partner was owner of the LNA&C from 1987 when they purchased it till Lucas Oil bought it from them. His first sentence about the caboose was that it had a "convoluted history." Not really the type of information you were looking for Roger but I found it quite interesting, love little history stuff like what he sent. It seems like in the early seventies the Kentucky Railway Museum asked permission to store two beat up C&EI transfer cabooses on the LNA&C, the cabooses had been converted from old C&EI boxcars. In 1983, Evans Transportation, then owners of the LNA&C asked KRM if they could use parts from both cabooses to make one good enough to carry dignitaries for the railroad's centennial. A deal was worked out and the railroad paid for all the materials and the railroad's workers did all the work.

When the two of them purchased the LNA&C in 1987 the caboose (the other had been scrapped by then) was in pretty rough shape, in fact an FRA inspector on an inspection of the railroad actually inspected the caboose and told them the trucks were bad and that they could not use it, he didn't know the railroad didn't even own the car and had no intention of using it. It was later that they started the excursion part of the railroad. They received many inquiries about the caboose which they would refer to the KRM since they owned it. It was finally sold by the KRM  to Mr. Thome, owner of a pre-cast concrete culvert, pipe, etc business which was on the line. The railroad moved the car up to his plant and he used his big front- end loader to lift it off the track and he placed it on his property where he used it as an office. Mr. Thome sold his operation to a multi-national firm which still uses the caboose as an office.

The caboose was never owned by the LNA&C and never used when he owned the railroad and use just a couple of times when Evans owned the line. When Evans used it those few times they used the Betty Sue to pull it. He remembers when the caboose was stored on the siding into the A.O Smith plant he would periodically pick large pieces of siding that had fallen from it. This is a little summary of the history of LNA&C 1883.
Have a good and safe day!

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Re: Historic Indiana Cabooses the Fs
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2010, 08:37:24 PM »
Hi,

Indiana towns that start with the letter G and have cabooses:

Garrett - B&O C1916, wood, cupola, Feick Park Swimming Pool;
           - C&O/B&O 90689, wood, cupola, High School Athletic Field;
           - C&O 903250, steel, wide vision cupola, Freight Station Railroad Museum;

Goshen - C&O #?, wood or steel?, cupola, CR 21 or 23?, off CR 38, 1 mi. w. of town;

Gosport - MONON 81315, wood, cupola?, address/location?

Granger? - DT&I 104, steel, cupola, s. of South Bend East KOA, n. of town, gone?
             - NS 366 to DT&I 152, steel, cupola, as above, gone?

Greenwood? - B&O? #?, wood, cupola, Bob Sedgewick, address/location?, gone to?

Griffith - EJ&E 197, steel, transfer, Griffith Depot Railroad Museum, south side of town;
          - EJ&E 503, steel, cupola, as above.

There are a few questions in the Gs, including 4 cabooses with uncertain/unknown addresses/locations.

Thanks, Roger

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Re: Historic Indiana Cabooses
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2010, 11:03:23 PM »
Here in Greensburg there is an old Big Four wood caboose bought from the railroad and placed in a yard as a storage building at a residence on Park Road. For a very long time it was quite recognizable as the cupola was intact as well as the end platforms, though the handrails were removed. It sat on a foundation sans trucks. It was painted red or reddish brown. Several years ago the owners removed the cupola and applied vinyl or aluminum siding and it is now tough to tell at first glance what it once was.

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Re: Historic Indiana Cabooses - the Hs
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2010, 06:00:03 PM »
Hi,

Indiana towns that start with the letter  and have cabooses:

Hammond - CSS&SB 1062, steel, bay window, Civic Center, poor condition, w/NKP 624 2-8-2;

Hartford City - PRR #?, wood, cupola, Class N6B, Quality Pools & Spas, SR 3 & 26;

Hebron - NH C562/PC 19844/CR 23817, steel, cupola, blt.'42, SR 8, near CR 500 W., from Avis, PA;

Henryville - L&N 1017 to L&N 109, steel, bay window, Haas Cabinets, Hwy. 31;

Hesston - C&O 90345 to CSS&SB 345, steel, cupola, Hesston Steam Museum, 219-872-7405;
            - C&O 90777? to TT 179? to Cedar Point & Lake Erie?, wood, cupola, 3' trucks, as above;
            - (Crown no #?), wood, cupola, 3' gauge, from Chicago area, as above;
            - S&QC no #, wood, cupola, 14" gauge, Stet & Query Central Railroad, as above;

Hobart - BRC 204, steel, transfer, Belt RR of Chi., Georgiana & S. Indiana Sts., from Merrillville, IN.

There are a few questions in the Hs, including 2 cabooses with uncertain or unknown numbers.

Thanks, Roger

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Re: Historic Indiana Cabooses - the Is, Js, & Ks
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2010, 07:44:04 PM »
[Hi,

Indiana towns that start with the letters I, J, & K that have cabooses:

Indianapolis - B&O C2023, wood, cupola, Old Northside Soccer Field, Bundy & 16th St., x-Hooters;
                  - NYC 19008, wood, cupola, Ice Cream Stand?, 6535 North Cornell Avenue;
                  - PRR?, as PRR 60, wood, cupola, side door, Children's Museum, 3000 N. Meridian St.;

Jasonville - ICG 199571, as Indiana RR 150, x-INDR 102, steel, wide vision cupola, Park, from Indy;

Jeffersonville? - B&O C2224, wood, cupola, Bridgeport Elementary School, Ewing Lane, gone to?
                    - LIRR 62 to NY&A C62 to LIRC 105, steel, bay window, L&I RR, from Fresh Pond, NY;
                    - NH #? to PC/CR #? to fake PRR, Preservation Station, 100 Preservation Place;

Kendallville - SOU X452 to NS/ALAB 500002, steel, bay window, no trucks, Kendallville Terminal RR;

Knox - N&W 518699, steel, cupola, Stark County Historical Society, Park, SR 35, north side of town.

There are a few questions in this group, including 2 cabooses with uncertain or unknown numbers.

Thanks, Roger

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Re: Historic Indiana Cabooses
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2010, 09:24:24 PM »
Etna Green - MNS 06? (ex-NP?), wood, cupola, City Park;

It is MNS 06 in a photo taken in 1993, it has recently been painted but not numbered. It has Andrews trucks and one is marked CB&Q, the other MStP&SSM RY.

Bob

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Re: Historic Indiana Cabooses
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2010, 01:18:14 PM »
Caboose in the West Tipton yards.
A NW Caboose has been in the yards for a few days.
Not sure of number.
Might be 518662.
Can't get close enough to take a good picture.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2010, 07:52:42 PM by Garry Tidler »

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« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2010, 02:39:15 PM »
Garry,
   There use to be 2 Cabs in Muncie, one was used on the Richmond local, the other was used on the Frankfort local (when it was a night time job).  After they put the L86 on and moved the L85 to days the caboose made fewer trips out of Muncie.  Then they used it on work trains around Muncie.  It was then parked with the L84 caboose in the Tail track at Muncie East yard.  I use to know the numbers for both.

Wonder if the guys got tired of shoving the Cargill traffic back?

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Re: Historic Indiana Cabooses - the Is, Js, & Ks
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2010, 02:34:44 PM »
Hi,

Indiana towns that start with the letter L that have cabooses:

Lafayette - NKP 774 to N&W 557774, steel, cupola, address/location?
              - GTW 78903, steel, cupola, GTW Yard, going/gone to Romney, IN?

Lapel - GTW 75060 to CI&W 75060, steel, transfer, 1000 W. & Rt. 32, west of town;
        - PRR #? to Central Ind. X41, wood, bay window, outside braced, Nancy's Grocery, gone to?

Latta? - SOO 99, steel, wide vision cupola, for sale by CP, 651-778-3527, still here or sold?

Laurel? - NYC 18570, wood, cupola, (house #?) Baltimore Street, very poor condition, gone to?

Linden - MONON C-283 as CI&L C283, wood, cupola, Linden Railroad Museum, 520 North Main St.;
          - NKP 497, steel, bay window, Linden Depot Mus., US 231, Linden-Madison Twp. Hist. Soc.;

Linton - PRR 477118 to PC 19338 as "You'll Like Linton", Humphreys Park, Hwy. 54;

Lowell - ICG 199465, steel, wide vision cupola, 173rd Street, east of US 41.

There are a few questions in this group, including 5 cabooses with uncertain or unknown locations.

These listings do not appear to be drawing much in the way of additions, comments, &/or corrections so I may stop with the Ls or, *possibly*, the Os, at the most.

Thanks, Roger

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« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2010, 06:18:58 PM »
Roger, I find the lists great, so please keep them coming.  I'd add some, but so far, you've listed all that I know of  :D
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Re: Historic Indiana Cabooses
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2010, 09:32:41 PM »
Yes, keep them coming.  I don't have a lot of info to add, but I'm saving them to go look some of them up when I'm in the neighborhood.

I'm also waiting to see if you have one on Kuhn Lake, several miles south of North Webster.

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Indiana Cabooses - the Ms
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2010, 11:58:06 PM »
Hi,

Indiana towns that start with the letter M that have cabooses:

Macy - CRR 1081 to SBD 11081, steel, cupola, David Savage,  90 W. 1100 N., from TCRM, Nashville;

Madison - CN 79718 as City of Madison RR CMPA 79718, steel, wide vision cupola,  Madison RR Office;
            - L&N 322, wood, cupola, Depot, 615 West 1st Street, from Kentucky Railroad Museum?

McCordsville - SCL 01124 to SBD21124, steel, cupola, McCordsville Barber Shop, off Rt. 67 at light, 4 sale?

Merrillville - MONON C-234, wood, cupola, no trucks, Northwestern Ind. RR Hist. Soc., Midwest Companies;

Michigan City? - ATSF 999008 to CSS 10006?, steel, cupola Chi. South Shore & SB, N. Carroll Ave., gone to?
                     - ATSF 999257, steel, cupola, Chicago, So. Shore & So. Bend, North Carroll Avenue, gone to?

Middlebury - MNS 09, wood, small bay window, blt. 1920, Vern Miller's Mill, 55514 CR 8, 1 mi. west of town;

Mishawaka - AA 2836 to GT/DT&I 122, steel, streamlined cupola, Wendt Crane Service, 56230 Elder St.;

Monon - MONON #?, wood, no cupola, Prairie Moon Market, Rt. 421, going to Monon Connection Museum?
          - WAB 2822 to N&W 562822 to CK&S/LNAL 2822, steel, streamlined cupola, as above;
          - MONON C-302, wood, cupola, Monon Railroad Historical Society, from Kentucy RR Museum;
          - RDG #? to EJ&E 179 to fake MONON 81579, steel, cupola, City Park, east of US 421;

Montpelier - CH&D 152 to B&O C1602, wood, cupola, Tin Lizzy Ice Cream Pump, Rts. 3 & 18, w. of town;

Morristown - B&O C2276 as B&O 2276, wood, cupola, Chamber of Commerce, 421 West Main St./US 52.

There are a few questions in this group, including 3 cabooses with uncertain or unknown numbers.

Thanks, Roger

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« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2010, 12:27:43 AM »
Thanks!  A very minor correction: the address of the Morristown Chamber is 425 W Main Street (US 52).

Also, an addition to Franklin.  There is apparently a caboose at the SW corner of SR 44 and 135 west of Franklin.  I guess it was moved from Bean Blossom?  Looks like another B&O.  Here's a link to a google streetview:
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